Earliest Identified Mangen’s in my Family Tree (So Far)

I have been working back through the Mangen family tree and have written the last 22 posts about the people I have information on. I have 2 more to introduce, my 7x Great Grandfather, Nicholas Mangen and my 8x Great Grandfather, Arnould Mangin. I first found Nicholas in his son’s marriage document from 1724. This document also provided the place he is from- Kayl, Luxembourg. I started looking for him in the Kayl church records and considering his son was married in 1724,  I was not optimistic because the baptism records go back to 1677 and the marriage records start at 1746 with many gaps. I was 22 images in the baptism records and all of a sudden there was a marriage record written between the baptism records. Under the year 1696 was the marriage record of Nicholas to Regina Fischbach!!! I was able to translate most of it but asked for help on a few words. See below.

The day 22 January were married in the house of Nicholas Fischbach and his wife Margarethe the honest groom Nicholas Mangin legitimate son of Arnould Mangin and his wife Claude from ??? with the virtuous bride Regine the legitimate daughter of Nicholas Fischbach and his wife Margarithe from Keill in the presence of witnesses and parents. Jean Nicholas (his mark) from Hongrange and Jean (his mark) Schneider from Bergem uncle of the bride from the side of the mother and Arnould (his mark) Mangin father of the groom and ??? (his mark) Scholtheiß of Hongrange.

A few things about this record

  1. This was in French but I have been told that the format is similar to German records which this makes sense and Luxembourg has had both French and German records.
  2. The place Hongrange is not found in Luxembourg or in France. The best estimate from people that weighed in on a Luxembourg site would be the commune Huncherange which is near Kayl. I looked through the earliest records from that town and found no Mangin’s. They may have all moved away or this may not be the right town. Another person suggested since it ended in “anges” this is a French ending so it may be somewhere in the Alsace-Lorrane region which is right across the border from the area in Luxembourg the village Kayl is in.
  3. The spelling of the surname changed from this record to the marriage record for his son in 1724. Mangin/Mangen. This is the only time I have seen it spelled with an “i”. There are Mangin’s in the north of France and my next time through the Mangen family tree I may take a whirl through the records there.
  4. Staying along this line of thought, my Great Grandmother Eva Guill, who married George Mangen in Chicago, spent time in early 1890’s in France working as an upstairs maid for the wife of a family with the surname of Mangin. Specifically General Mangin. There was a General Mangin but he was a similar age to Eva and he wasn’t married until 1900. Perhaps she worked for his father who was an Inspector General. Eva working for a family named Mangin is most likely a coincidence but something fun to recognize.
  5. The last name of the witnesses -Scholtheiß means Mayor so he may be the Mayor of the village of Hongrange. If I can track down this person I may be able to figure out the village the Mangin family is from.

I have found only 3 baptism records for children of Nicholas and Regina. They are: Anna 1700, Nicholas 1701 (6x Great Grandfather) , and Petrus 1708. I will try to find more on these two siblings the next time I visit the Mangen family tree.

In summary, Nicholas Mangin/Mangen was from a Hongrange, Luxembourg, his parents are Arnould Mangin and Claude. He was married to Regina Fischbach on 22 January 1696 in Kayl. I have not found his death.

The only record I have found for my 8x Great Grandfather, Arnould Mangin is this marriage record. It did identify the first name of his wife, Claude, where he is from, and his signature is the letter “M”.

Mangen Genealogy Line

Arnould Mangin dates unknown

Nicholas Mangin dates unknown

Nicholas Mangen 1701-1768

Johann Mangen 1737-1793

Mathias Mangen 1769-1814

Jacques Mangen 1802-1892

Nicholas Mangen 1829-1907

George Mangen 1868-1903

Henry Mangen 1900-1947

Florence Mangen -my mom

References

Luxembourg registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948,” images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9WM-9Q2X?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-W3R%3A1500917801%2C1500920944 : 9 January 2015), Kayl > Baptêmes 1677-1746, mariages 1746, sépultures 1745-1746 > image 22 of 140; paroisses, Luxembourg (parishes, Luxembourg).

Luxembourg registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948,” images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-97SD?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-W3R%3A1500917801%2C1500920944 : 9 January 2015), Kayl > Baptêmes 1677-1746, mariages 1746, sépultures 1745-1746 > image 18 of 140; paroisses, Luxembourg (parishes, Luxembourg).

Luxembourg registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948,” images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-97SD?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-W3R%3A1500917801%2C1500920944 : 9 January 2015), Kayl > Baptêmes 1677-1746, mariages 1746, sépultures 1745-1746 > image 18 of 140; paroisses, Luxembourg (parishes, Luxembourg).

Luxembourg registres paroissiaux, 1601-1948,” images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99WM-979Y?cc=2037955&wc=STHZ-W3R%3A1500917801%2C1500920944 : 9 January 2015), Kayl > Baptêmes 1677-1746, mariages 1746, sépultures 1745-1746 > image 24 of 140; paroisses, Luxembourg (parishes, Luxembourg).


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